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burnboy

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I say odd, if it were a valve spring or valve issue you'd get some kind ofdriveability problems or at least misfires
 

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Piston skirts don't collapse. But they do :smack: the cylinder walls.

A low oil scenario can cause them to slap. Once they start slapping, it scores the walls like a sand-paper condom....:ahhhhh:

I would do what the others say. But, I will add this. I had pretty badly scored cylinders. Due to the heavy 50 weight oil I was using, the compression test came back with all in the same percentage. A leak down would also be a good test. If you cannot do a leak down, then a borescope will do quiet well as a substitute.
 

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A low oil scenario can cause them to slap. Once they start slapping, it scores the walls like a sand-paper condom....:ahhhhh:

Too bad they're not built like the old jeep inline 6. I got one that's been piston slappin for 200k miles and runs great and doesn't burn a drop of oil. Lol
 

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Put some Lucas Oil Heavy oil stabilizer in there. See if it quiets it down.

Piston slap was actually a regular occurrence on a certain year Dodge Neon. The company ended up saying that it was,"normal wear and tear." That way they never didn't have to warranty out any more engines. :facepalm: Better design and a tad thicker oil would have prevented the problem in the first place.
 

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Already tried lucas, and it doesn't burn oil, so that's good i suppose.
 

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The tranverse mounted 2gr has bad piston slap. Once it warms up it goes away. Toyota/lexus calls it normal.....
 

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Status: so far I've got the passenger side done, from front to rear 135, 130, 127 these are cold numbers
 

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As looking at the engine from the front

127 105
130 90
135 135

Looks like it's time to go forged internals........or trade in for an Audi
 
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Can you get your hands on a borescope? It would be good to check and see if the wall are scored.
 

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Don't buy an Audi! I'm an Audi master and I'm tellin ya if you want engine problems buy an Audi. Buy a ford homie

Here's 2 piston jobs at once
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Oil consumption all day long replacing pistons and rings because the oil control ring hunks up from carbon from blow by because the oil separator can't properly control ring flutter
 
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As looking at the engine from the front

127 105
130 90
135 135

Looks like it's time to go forged internals........or trade in for an Audi

dpartinvr4: 2 low cylinders...get em checked out as mentioned.....

To all: Do these engines have cooling issues or something else causing failure or just weak components? Is there a trend on which cylinders tend to go first on these motors?
 

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#6 runs the hottest, then #5. Rear driver, & rear passenger.

Ring lands and rings cannot handle to much predetonation. Actually, these engines are very weak when it comes to predetonation.

Those numbers are all low though. Should be between 170s-180s.

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What the hell is predetonation?? Is that something like a pending code or ghost knock??

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Spontaneous combustion prior to planned detonation.


Wait. So you are trying to hassle me on a well known industry accepted term, but not on the comment about a "collapsed piston skirt"??? :eviltongue:
 
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