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blu xr

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just wondering if there were any problems with the windshields on the xr's? maybe a bad batch or whatever. mine seems pretty weak...got rock 3 chips within the past few months & now its cracking. ive owned several different vehicles (25+) and have never had a chip...much less have it crack out.

i set up an appointment with the only place in town that fixes them. what sux is that it closed for 2 wks due to a death in the family. of coarse it cracked during that time :thumbdown:
 

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Chip within a week full blown crack that split in 3. Then had one start from the outer edge of the windshield going in.
 

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I bought mine with a 6" crack from the right edge toward the middle. Seller gave me $200 off to cover the fix. I lived with it for several months, then once cold day I turned up the heat and put the defrosters on to clear the frost on the windshield. CRACK! Straight across the glass. I like my new windshield.

Steve
 

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When I bought mine the dealer web to take the sticker off and put about a 10" crack in my windshield they replaced it and I love the new one
 

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Took a rock a month after I got it and watched the crack go all the way across the windshield in 5 minutes of driving. Stayed really low and out I my field of view, so I haven't replaced it.
 

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mines chipped and cracked too..they do seem a little fragile..i was quoted 180 for a new one..which is pretty cheap to me compared to other shields ive replaced
 

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yea ford windows suck acxtually saw a wind storm come through and a whole bunch of fords had broken windows and only fords also i have got 2 chips on mine
 

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its gotta be weak...at least mine is. over 25 yrs of driving & the only 3 rock chips & crack i ever got are on my x that ive had for 3yrs. funny too that the smallest chip is what cracked. it was right in the center about 3" from the bottom...went up a few inches, hooked a left and went straight thru both tags.
 

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I've been working on cars since the early 90s. Rock chips and cracks happen. All makes and all models. I have a chip in mine. I had a chip in my old Corvettes, replaced 2 in my old GTI. Have seen so many glass guys over the years for customers cars it doesn't matter. Toyota, Vw, Porsche, Audi, BMW, Mercedes, GMs ect ect. Glass cracks, every make and model when hit hard enough.
 

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Gotta love living in Florida!
By FL Law, if you have full coverage, they do full windshield replacements with NO DEDUCTIBLE charge!! And State Farm takes it a step further and replaces ANY glass that way - I had a sunroof replaced 100% free.

The BAD thing is that the damned glass shops set up in side car washes and inspect cars as you go thru. Then they bug you saying they can replace it 100% free to you (but hit your insurance for the $$) Reeks of ambulance chasers if ya ask me!!
 

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I have been lucky in the damage department. I did replace it because the glass was getting old. After we set the original next to the new one the original had changed color. The tint strip on the top of the glass was turning brown. I did have the noise problem before and that was fixed under warranty
 

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I do windshield repair as a side business, so I want to help clear some things up.

Rock chips happen. Any make, any model.
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its gotta be weak...at least mine is. over 25 yrs of driving & the only 3 rock chips & crack i ever got are on my x that ive had for 3yrs. funny too that the smallest chip is what cracked. it was right in the center about 3" from the bottom...went up a few inches, hooked a left and went straight thru both tags.
And for 25 years, it's likely pure luck. How many times have you had a flat tire that you got while driving somewhere? I've had flat tires, but never had to change it while I was on my way somewhere. I've been driving since 2000. Weak? Could be. Depends on who made the glass. PPG and Pilkington are two names that come to mind that have been known to be of the best quality standards in the glass industry. My gut tells me you will never see one in any car you own because they cost a lot more than the chinese imported stuff that A LOT of companies use. Every penny counts these days.

Size of damage may or may not be relevant. Every time a windshield cracks/chips, etc, it is never the same. You should see some of the images of them under a high powered microscope. It's beautiful! (ok got a little too giddy there) but the usual culprit of a windshield cracking after it's been damaged is none other than moisture freezing and expanding. Another factor is the pressure created inside your cab that pushes against the window. Got any idea how much force is created on a scorching day and you slam your door closed without the window open? :ahhhhh: A small chip with a hairline crack could go the entire length of your windshield faster than you can blink.

Another factor is also how the vehicle is designed aerodynamically. Have you ever noticed some cars windshields are angled much more steep towards the driver, (F-Body GM's) than say a jeep wrangler? The jeeps windshield is like a wall where the more angled windshields have less resistance and usually just aid in letting debris roll right over it.

Gotta love living in Florida!
By FL Law, if you have full coverage, they do full windshield replacements with NO DEDUCTIBLE charge!! And State Farm takes it a step further and replaces ANY glass that way - I had a sunroof replaced 100% free.

The BAD thing is that the damned glass shops set up in side car washes and inspect cars as you go thru. Then they bug you saying they can replace it 100% free to you (but hit your insurance for the $$) Reeks of ambulance chasers if ya ask me!!
Great state law!!!! :biggrin:

But not really. Imagine you provided a service to people but instead of you setting the price, the insurance company tells you that they're only paying X amount of dollars. The average windshield repair I do is $50-$75. Average replacement is $200-$300. So in FL I would be getting paid at a fraction of what the real retail cost is. Would you be performing your best work and using the best supplies to get the job done if you ran a business? So in reality, you are getting sub-par product and services by this law that was made to make you feel good. In my opinion, it actually makes you more at risk for the windshield to not be installed correctly and lead to bigger problems, like flying out of the car in the event of an accident. Yes, it has happened.

People that run successful windshield repair and replacement businesses would never go to Florida because we couldn't charge what WE want. The gypsies and national companies (like Safelite) rely more on volume and could care less about quality. They might even fudge the installation to milk more money out of the insurance company, blaming you for something. But that good ol' state law says they gotta pay if you have full coverage right?

I have been lucky in the damage department. I did replace it because the glass was getting old. After we set the original next to the new one the original had changed color. The tint strip on the top of the glass was turning brown. I did have the noise problem before and that was fixed under warranty
Sounds like U/V radiation killing it like it does everything else. Not all glass companies are going to use the same color/hue to that tint strip though. Some don't even have a tint strip at all.
 

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I do windshield repair as a side business, so I want to help clear some things up.
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Great state law!!!! :biggrin:

But not really. Imagine you provided a service to people but instead of you setting the price, the insurance company tells you that they're only paying X amount of dollars. The average windshield repair I do is $50-$75. Average replacement is $200-$300. So in FL I would be getting paid at a fraction of what the real retail cost is. Would you be performing your best work and using the best supplies to get the job done if you ran a business? So in reality, you are getting sub-par product and services by this law that was made to make you feel good. In my opinion, it actually makes you more at risk for the windshield to not be installed correctly and lead to bigger problems, like flying out of the car in the event of an accident. Yes, it has happened.

People that run successful windshield repair and replacement businesses would never go to Florida because we couldn't charge what WE want. The gypsies and national companies (like Safelite) rely more on volume and could care less about quality. They might even fudge the installation to milk more money out of the insurance company, blaming you for something. But that good ol' state law says they gotta pay if you have full coverage right?


Well the 2 changes I've had done I had done by larger firms that used only PPG Glass and I watched them work - they were complete replacements, not repairs.

But I DID have an issue with the X runner -- they didn't put the roof rack rubber back in properly so it blew off the truck...I just replaced it on my own..

Otherwise no leaks no other issues..

Maybe I'm just lucky!
 

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Well the 2 changes I've had done I had done by larger firms that used only PPG Glass and I watched them work - they were complete replacements, not repairs.

But I DID have an issue with the X runner -- they didn't put the roof rack rubber back in properly so it blew off the truck...I just replaced it on my own..

Otherwise no leaks no other issues..

Maybe I'm just lucky!
You ended up getting a skilled worker who cares and kudos to that company using PPG. They must get the glass at a really good price, otherwise what I said is true. You can't be in business and not make money. If the insurance company only pays so much, they're cutting costs somewhere to keep up, or they do so much in volume to offset the cost.

I can tell you the monkeys that work for the big national companies around me don't know their head from their ass. They are actually paid a bonus if they sell more windshield replacements. So that means when I could have fixed someone's glass for $50, they want to sell you a brand new one and knock some money off (which just means a marked up MSRP now goes down to what they would really charge retail anyway)

Shit is frustrating. :laugh:
 
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