CKS Rear Sway-Bar Mod

[emo_X]

here is the rear sway bar mod moved the mount in 2 1/2in to make it stiffer works great the ass end is alot more tighter than the front lol will be woking on that next fells more stiff

 

[Stevenredx]

hmmm.... interesting, i would like to hear some of the other guys input on this. Nice work bro :top:

 

[emo_X]

thanks bro what do u want to know

 

[wshsbears]

so u moved the mounts back 2.5 inches and it made the ass end a lot stiffer? please explain fully what changes here

 

[CBRBob]

Since you shortened the legnth from the bend to the link, you have shortened the 'leverage' the bar will be able to transfer from side to side. As the truck rolls you now in effect made the bar seem 'smaller'. I don't know why you feel it's tighter, what you did should have the opposite effect.
Who said this would be better?

 

[skilledbum23]

hmmmm mind games?

 

[Xample]

:dontknow: :hmmmm2: :dontknow:

 

[trd_sport]

Looks good Chris.....I'll have to ummmm take it for a test drive to feel the difference:top:

 

[PLCX]

i dont get the point

 

[Murdered X]

I'm totally lost here:hmmmm2:.

 

[Shanes56]

This is the rear shackle we are looking at am I correct or is it the rear sway mount? if neither please explain. Way to step out there

 

[project-c2]

Basically, you are shortening the length of the anit roll bars arms making them stiffer. Would you get the same result if you just redrilled the sway bar and use the same mounting point, or are there clearence issues. Good idea.

 

[Dallas]

thats a good idea, but i would only be stiffer on body roll, would it not?

 

[emo_X]

Since you shortened the legnth from the bend to the link, you have shortened the 'leverage' the bar will be able to transfer from side to side. As the truck rolls you now in effect made the bar seem 'smaller'. I don't know why you feel it's tighter, what you did should have the opposite effect.
Who said this would be better?

ok u have pipe lets say its 1ft long 1 in thick steal can u bend it no u can not
no take the same pipe but its 20ft long and brace it so that u want to bent it

u will be able to bent the 20ft and not the 1ft because u have more leverage

now by shorting the sway-bar the truck is losing leverage to flex the sway-bar

there are alot of man's that have this
http://cobbtuning.com/products/?id=2272

here u go

 

[Shanes56]

true, chris if you like it and it improvers the performance in your eyes then that is what matter no one else has to drive it. I like the way you think!

thats a good idea, but i would only be stiffer on body roll, would it not?

 

[emo_X]

Basically, you are shortening the length of the anit roll bars arms making them stiffer. Would you get the same result if you just redrilled the sway bar and use the same mounting point, or are there clearence issues. Good idea.

no there is not with they way i did it its back in the stock location but if u were to do it in the stock sway bar mount hole i dont see it having any problem with the way i did it takes the binding out of it and with going to be stiff and stock links i want to help it as much a i can

thats a good idea, but i would only be stiffer on body roll, would it not?

yes dallas come on :top: jk bro

true, chris if you like it and it improvers the performance in your eyes then that is what matter no one else has to drive it. I like the way you think!

well it works great and thanks man :smile:

 

[CBRBob]

now by shorting the sway-bar the truck is losing leverage to flex the sway-bar

You are not looking at the whole picture of the way a sway bar works....
When you turn to the right, the trucks body rolls to the left, raising the right side and dropping the left. The end of the bar on the right will essentially go down and the on the left it tries to go up. The longer the leverage on the right(higher) side is, the MORE it will try and do the same on the opposite side. When you shorten the legnth, it can't make as much torque to do it's job. It may initially feel as if it is reacting quicker since the link is closer to the bar's center, but the harder you turn, the less effective it will become.
So your initial 'feel' may be good, but more than that this becomes leff effective.

 

[azjimi]

You are not looking at the whole picture of the way a sway bar works....
When you turn to the right, the trucks body rolls to the left, raising the right side and dropping the left. The end of the bar on the right will essentially go down and the on the left it tries to go up. The longer the leverage on the right(higher) side is, the MORE it will try and do the same on the opposite side. When you shorten the legnth, it can't make as much torque to do it's job. It may initially feel as if it is reacting quicker since the link is closer to the bar's center, but the harder you turn, the less effective it will become.
So your initial 'feel' may be good, but more than that this becomes leff effective.

Just to add another 2¢, I have NEVER heard of shortening a sway bar to make it stiffer & thus more effective in reducing body roll. Common wisdom & practice is that they are made thicker to accomplish that task.

I've been out of the XR loop lately, but I haven't heard of anybody making an aftermarket sway for the X. Has anybody?

 

[emo_X]

You are not looking at the whole picture of the way a sway bar works....
When you turn to the right, the trucks body rolls to the left, raising the right side and dropping the left. The end of the bar on the right will essentially go down and the on the left it tries to go up. The longer the leverage on the right(higher) side is, the MORE it will try and do the same on the opposite side. When you shorten the legnth, it can't make as much torque to do it's job. It may initially feel as if it is reacting quicker since the link is closer to the bar's center, but the harder you turn, the less effective it will become.
So your initial 'feel' may be good, but more than that this becomes leff effective.

so ur telling me that if i was to try to brake a bolt lose leverage is the same with a stubby vs a breaker bar no u are wrong

the sway-bar is the stubby/breaker bar

and the truck being me

i really would have to give it my all to over come the bolt witha stubby because i have no LEVERAGE but with the LEVERAGE of the breaker bar because its LONGER i can over come the bolt

it dosen't matter if the force is up or down its still the same force on the bar

The Truck Has Less LEVERAGE On The Sway-Bar.

the sway bar is still the same stiffness but the truck can not flex it has easy

Just to add another 2¢, I have NEVER heard of shortening a sway bar to make it stiffer & thus more effective in reducing body roll. Common wisdom & practice is that they are made thicker to accomplish that task.

I've been out of the XR loop lately, but I haven't heard of anybody making an aftermarket sway for the X. Has anybody?

nobody make one

i am not make it stiff, i am making it harder for the truck to flex it

 

[Dallas]

you should see the anti sway bar on my race truck, the forward legs are only about 8 inces long! it has zero sway!