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PCV System & Oil Catch Can

Super Werty

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ok so just so eveeryone knows

No check valve for the TRD supercharged peeps. Because boost is created after the vac hose:top:
 

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The good thing is that on the URD setup, the fresh air side hose is before the blower. So that side still functions the same as the N/A, TRD S/C setups.
I would have to say that either the PCV valve doesn't hold 100% of the pressure out, or that over time pressure is able to seep through. Thus why my can on the opposite side catches oil
 

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The good thing is that on the URD setup, the fresh air side hose is before the blower. So that side still functions the same as the N/A, TRD S/C setups.
I would have to say that either the PCV valve doesn't hold 100% of the pressure out, or that over time pressure is able to seep through. Thus why my can on the opposite side catches oil

Well it doesnt function the same entirely if the PCV valve is shut when exposed to boost.

N/A or TRD fresh air is drawn in through that side (passenger) INTO the crankcase and evacuated out on the PCV side (this is the way the system was designed to operate).

With your setup the PCV valve is closed almost entirely under boost (leaking some boost into the crankcase most likely), and your pulling on a blocked off PCV system through the 'wrong' end.

The PCV Valve on the TRD or N/A setups are NEVER exposed to boost (only more VAC). The less VAC the pintle in the PCV valve sees the less it allows through (idle and cruising). The more VAC the pintle sees the more it allows through until it goes full open and allows full draw (only being restricted at that point by the size of the PCV valve itself).

This is great because as boost is created with PD setups (Roots/Screw) it in turn pulls even more VAC on that valve really helping to evacuate crankcase pressure and blowby gasses under boost! The PD blower then in a sense becomes a free vac pump to relieve crankcase pressure & blowby gasses. The more load, the more vac, the more evacuation.


Where as a Turbo or URD setup - That valve shuts under boost not allowing ANY draw through the system. This doesn't allow much flow through the crankcrase and you are pulling VAC on the fresh air side with 'restriction' from the closed PCV side & that valve cover.

The fresh air side valve cover (passenger side) is designed to be more restrictive then the driver PCV side (to be purposely biased to flow better towards the PCV valve).

So really N/A TRD function much differently from Cent/Turbo. The only time the PCV system functions as it 'should' (as designed) with the cent blower/turbo is when there is no boost being made.

The rest of the time your oil is flowing out the passenger side because of crankcase pressure having no where else to go (because its restricted on the PCV side via the closed valve).

This essentially is defeating how the entire system was designed to operate in the first place. HOWEVER even with that being said it still has some advantage over just capping off the system entirely and running breathers or draft tubes.
 
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So.... can someone ms.paint me up a diagram of how to hook up my catch can with the URD setup? Im getting a little confused when you guys keep going back and forth lol. But im definitely learning about this stuff!

I ordered my Catch can from TTC performance...so a diagram would be helpful. :top:
 

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So.... can someone ms.paint me up a diagram of how to hook up my catch can with the URD setup? Im getting a little confused when you guys keep going back and forth lol. But im definitely learning about this stuff!

I ordered my Catch can from TTC performance...so a diagram would be helpful. :top:

Post a pic of how its setup now, and we can get you set straight. :top:
 

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Would you like a picture of my engine bay??

I don't have the catch can yet. I was hoping to figure it out before it actually came so i know what im getting into. thanks.
 

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Just put the can on the tube that spews the most oil with out subjecting it to boost (sometimes you can link them both together) .

Dont worry about it - its not crazy technical stuff brother.

The hardest part is finding where you want to mount it.

This is the most fun you can have with your clothes on, don't worry.
 

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Would you like a picture of my engine bay??

I don't have the catch can yet. I was hoping to figure it out before it actually came so i know what im getting into. thanks.

A pic of your bay with the S/C installed. We'll find a good place for it. :top:
 

off-road taco06

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...the one in my sig is not good enough?!? :laugh:

j/k i should be able to get a pic up tonight.
 

off-road taco06

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ok well my bad on not getting a pic up yet... work has been ridiculously crazy this week and everytime i get a little time to get a picture of my engine bay, its already dark outside. SOOOOO.. i will try to post one up as soon as i can (probably this weekend).

Thanks again for your help with this.
 

off-road taco06

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I was able to get some shots yesterday afternoon. Let me know some good locations for the can and how to mount.
Also im still unclear on how to hook it up with my setup(i wanna make sure the can is not seeing boost). Like i said, diagrams are helpful.

My engine bay is pretty damn dirty so excuse the mess.... it finally stopped raining here in socal and i have been unable to wash her since then.

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I'd say mount it where Coupe mounted his catch can:top:

looks like there's less room in the bay with the URD setup then there is with the TRD one
 

off-road taco06

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Perfect spot i think werty. Thanks for the help dude! :top:\

I think i just need to figure out the bracket deal.
 

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hmmm looks awfully familiar O_O

glad to see you got it will

Is that a MAP sensor just hanging there?
 
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